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  CNN , Headline News , and 1914 , hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
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  saw a great little piece on headline news or cnn the other night, they showed a memorial celebration of the 90th year of world war one.

  now think about this, how many veterans do you think attended from world war one ???????.

  the one veteran who layed down a wreath, was 108, and he talked a little, the best he could, and thanking his fellow war heroes.. this piece really hit home with me, because, didn't the watchtower once say, the generation of 1914 will not pass away, remember the early teaching, "they would have to be able to understand the things going on", "first started with 15 years olds, then ten year old, then can't be babies born, then can be babies born.

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  run don't walk; great expose' one the jw's truely back down from, if they even know about it? this is one of my best arguements with jw's. to truely see the events of 1914, you would need to be a soldier. at least 16-18 yrs old at a minimum. making you 106 yrs old at the least. like you said you only saw 4 vets at the parade. and most likely they didn't join ww1 till 1917-18 add the extra 3-4 years to 1914 and you get 103-107 years old. come on these are the fewist of few. the wt said the generation was to be up in 1914 40 year harvest from 1874-1914, 1918,1920 25 30's 41 , ww2 ,1914+37 years the generation for the destruction of jerusalem =1951 (korean war) 40 years the end of korean war . any time before the 70's , then any time before 21th century. now they are implying 120yrs+1914 with the time of noah. i still get jw's defending the generation idea. telling me every morning on the nbc news they say happy birthday to people over 100. and use this as justifaction. the lenghts a jw will go to , to defend the craptower is amazing..... john
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  a number of JW publications online

  by cyberguy in

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  2. bible

  i saw a previous thread regarding the nwt being online.

  it appears that the wt is putting a number of publications online!

  see http://www.watchtower.org/publications/publications_available.htm.

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  neo: the finished mystery 1917 was on geocides complete. it will not open for me no longer. maybe someelse has a working address. john
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  MONEY!

  by in a new york bethel minute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dont know if this has been discussed in forum before... but i have heard that in some places, the society still asks for money for their "life-saving products.

  " two countries in particular have been pointed as being pay-per-mag operated.

  australia and (of all places) africa.

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  i just spoke to a jw from jamacia today . she told me they still sell them there. she makes about 7 jamacians that have told me the same thing. i fact she really pressed me for a donation today in new york. even told me a dollar or 2 would be about right. i gave her 8 pennies. and told her if she gives more than that to the wt for 2 mag's that she's getting ripped off. john
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  I just confronted a car full of dubs in the preaching work!

  by Atilla in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, just got back from getting my morning coffee and they were across the street from my house talking to a lady that i believe is turning into a return visit.

  i was frantically looking for the un letter, found it and then approached the car as they were just getting back in.

  the old dub guy totally denied any un involvement and went into the speal about why the un and before that league of nations was so bad.

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  atilla: EXTRA GOOD JOB. YOU DID fine!!!!!!!! you shut them down. once they can't answer you . with facts you busted them, and they know if they dig deeper, they will find more crap. they hate facts at that point you,can now honestly call them hypocrites, liars false witnesses . and having a double standard. i confronted 3 jw's yesterday and one today, igo straight on the attack . i hit them with questions they never heard before. then challange them , that i'll go right now to the k hall and look it up for them . since they are calling me a liar.. trust me there are very few people out there , that can knock a jw for a loop. and as we all know jw's need to be brought down to earth. it hurts them very deeply when someone puts them in their place. Atilla you did great sounds like you may just have made them lose a study.. keep up the good work. it gets easier and more fun, every time you confront them. john as i tell them if they can't answer my questions or why jesus would pick a false prophet. they have no business knocking on doors and calling them selves ministers. they should be honest and just tell people they are publishers , and not able to question what ever the wt tells them. true or false
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  Two Elders Stopped By

  by rocketman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  two elders approached me yesterday afternoon while i was doing a bit of work on my car.

  unsuccessful at reaching me in my home (mostly because i don't answer the doorbell when they come) they saw me outside and decided to stop to talk.

  the conversation did not go especially well.

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  excellent rocket man: they hate when someone stands up to them. they are not programed for it . after about 5-10 minutes. they run out of ammo and are melting in their suits. i just whipped 3 jw's in the street today. every time they lie or give me an incorrect answer. i start talking again and cut them off.. i fact if they act stupid @90% of the time. i don't even let them talk. i just pound away. again great work , they will think twice before they come to talk to you again. john
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  Do you have anger issues because of mistreatment by JW's?

  by LyinEyes in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have been reading the thead on jw suicide the last two days and i have to admit, i am boiling mad, angry, and literally have thoughts of wanting to put my hands around some of the jw's who have abused so many......lol!!!!!!!

  i realize this is not at all funny, but i do laugh at how i let this get to me to the point of fantazing of slapping some of the "higher than thou" jw's i have ran across in my life and those whom some of you decribed.

  i read scully's story and wanted to choak the ones who did not pass her the emblems at the memorial.. i get so mad when i read how some of the jw's want to pass judgement on the one's who have committed suicide , saying they will not be resurrected.

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  so many honest posts here . were are all the posters that defend the wt to some extent or and other on this thread? i'll tell you were they are . there waiting for a thread about the wt's corp. rights, freedom of speech, or some other legal junk they can use to defend this group that uses $$$$$$ POWER AND CONTROL to screw up peoples lives. this one thread alone is enough reason to burn the wt to the ground. and there are 1000"s of more stories like these here. but many here will say the wt has a right to promote their bull$h!t . i have no respect for any one that says the wt should be allowed to continue operating. and that goes for any other group, that pulles the same garbage. that's my stance . john
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  Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  every so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.

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  xq's i think your smoking some heavy stuff on your ideas of how jw's see the wt.. let me know when you come down to earth. john
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  New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...

  by TheApostleAK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.

  i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.

  after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.

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  johnny cip

  xq's you need to read your wt publications closer. try starting with the nov dec 2003 wt's and work your way back. it's all about giving your estate, realestate, jewerly, stocks, bonds, pensions, bank accounts etc. to the wt. the wt has been doing this for decades, ever been to a wt convention? every other line is $$$$$$$$$$$$$ . your not talking to a wt zombie here. i heard it as a kid 9 yr old kid 35 years ago. only difference is the craptower is getting more brazen in the last 15 years with the donation arangement.. BEGGING FOR $$$$$$$$$$$ READ THE KINGDOM MINISTERIES. in the last few years . and the new 3 boxes at the hall. it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. how the wt kissed up to hitler to keep thier real estate in germany 1933-37 the lies they told the mexican gov't till 1990's to own land. the legal games they play in the courts of france, italy etc to make beleive they are a charity.. your waisting my time with your shallow knowledge of the wt corp. shannagians .your right a corp. is only a piece of paper but the peice of papar . dictates how that corp. is run. under any laws the gov't will let them get away with and the wt is no fool they have 100'[s of lawyers to make sure that , they find every loop hole. . the wt works in the confines of what every worldly gov't they find themselves in and if they don't get their way , they cry bloody murder to the united nations. now wake up and take your head out of the sand. it's all about $$$$$$$$$$. they could care less about some jw that gets 20 years in prison for thier tacticts. john
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  Are good looking ladies part of the plan?

  by Qcmbr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not a jw but we have a lot of door knocking in our area and i have to say ... there are a lot of really good looking ladies !!

  is that your experience as well?

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  johnny cip

  funny in new york city. i don't run into many really stunning jw woman. many are good looking. but once you talk to them . you want to puke. enough said. i wouldn't marry one of these fruit cakes i've talked with for next weeks lotto numbers. john
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  Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.

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  xq's ; the more i read your posts . you keep making roundabout excuses for the actions of the jw's or the wt. your reasoning is not winning me over. sorry i truely think you need a taste of your own medicine. john